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	<title>Comments on: Freeman Dyson on Global Warming Myopia &#8212; UPDATED</title>
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		<title>By: The Moral Case FOR Global Warming &#171; New Wineskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moral Case FOR Global Warming &#171; New Wineskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moral Case FOR Global&#160;Warming    As I have noted before, e.g., here and here, environmental cooling, whether on long or short timescales (and no matter what the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Moral Case FOR Global&nbsp;Warming    As I have noted before, e.g., here and here, environmental cooling, whether on long or short timescales (and no matter what the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Gallo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very true that many of these scientists are lured to fudge and frighten, b/c that happens to be their meal ticket.  The grant money is coming from biased sources, and they tailor their theories to fir that bias.  After repeating the inaccuracies long enough, they become used to it and accept the false science as true science.  

This is much the same phenomenon as for macro-evolution.  Because you are not allowed to think outside the evolution box and be a respected scientist, you simply knuckle under, regardless of how facially ridiculous the theory has become in the face of advancing laboratory science.

Still, this is not the real issue.  The real issue that perpetuates &quot;climate change&quot; zeolotry is the desire for control.  Periodically someone in the Left leadership lets slip that the world is well past what they deem optimal human population.  That belief, tied with their belief that, like Platonic Guardians, they need to control those --to paraphrase BHO&#039;s statement - -gun totin&#039;, Bible thumpin&#039;, narrow minded rubes, is thier goal in this bogus science.  They intend to regulate, regulate, regulate.  And every time I say &quot;regulate,&quot; I mean &quot;control.&quot; 

In fact the stated ultimate goal of the Greens is anti-private property for the masses, and anti-masses.  They essentially want to go back to the feudal system, where the peasants gather their huts around the castle, and are allowed to work the land, or the shops in town.  The Green mantra is a much smaller population, clustered in city states, with agricultural bands around the cites, and most of the land a massive nature preserve.  Of course the workers would have a better life than feudal serfs, but the Left/Green ruling class would have the comforts.  If you doubt this, see how the Left leadership sees no shame in constantly demanding that everyone sacrifice and be regulated, but them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very true that many of these scientists are lured to fudge and frighten, b/c that happens to be their meal ticket.  The grant money is coming from biased sources, and they tailor their theories to fir that bias.  After repeating the inaccuracies long enough, they become used to it and accept the false science as true science.  </p>
<p>This is much the same phenomenon as for macro-evolution.  Because you are not allowed to think outside the evolution box and be a respected scientist, you simply knuckle under, regardless of how facially ridiculous the theory has become in the face of advancing laboratory science.</p>
<p>Still, this is not the real issue.  The real issue that perpetuates &#8220;climate change&#8221; zeolotry is the desire for control.  Periodically someone in the Left leadership lets slip that the world is well past what they deem optimal human population.  That belief, tied with their belief that, like Platonic Guardians, they need to control those &#8211;to paraphrase BHO&#8217;s statement &#8211; -gun totin&#8217;, Bible thumpin&#8217;, narrow minded rubes, is thier goal in this bogus science.  They intend to regulate, regulate, regulate.  And every time I say &#8220;regulate,&#8221; I mean &#8220;control.&#8221; </p>
<p>In fact the stated ultimate goal of the Greens is anti-private property for the masses, and anti-masses.  They essentially want to go back to the feudal system, where the peasants gather their huts around the castle, and are allowed to work the land, or the shops in town.  The Green mantra is a much smaller population, clustered in city states, with agricultural bands around the cites, and most of the land a massive nature preserve.  Of course the workers would have a better life than feudal serfs, but the Left/Green ruling class would have the comforts.  If you doubt this, see how the Left leadership sees no shame in constantly demanding that everyone sacrifice and be regulated, but them.</p>
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		<title>By: Just_Saying</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bjorn Lomborg, who tries to get global warming alarmists to consider other possibilities, said exactly the same thing about deaths in heat vs. death in cold at his local lecture.  Really, to give credit/blame to humans for changing climatic conditions is a little overboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bjorn Lomborg, who tries to get global warming alarmists to consider other possibilities, said exactly the same thing about deaths in heat vs. death in cold at his local lecture.  Really, to give credit/blame to humans for changing climatic conditions is a little overboard.</p>
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