Posted by: ultraguy | August 8, 2009

Misplaced Faith, Misplaced Anger

In a Friday piece in The American Thinker (‘The Real Climate Agenda’), Robert Ferguson uses the details of a 1973 plane crash in the Florida Everglades as a metaphor to highlight how specious alarmism about climate change is distracting us from the utter ruin being foisted upon this country by its current leaders.

I agree with virtually all of it.

Yet one phase seems emblematic of an attitude which I shared until very recently, and from which I have been pried only very reluctantly by the Holy Spirit. I would submit that it is even more dangerous than what he (correctly) describes.

“Americanism,” Ferguson writes, is “our birthright, the only true hope of this planet’s peoples,” concluding: “It is time to become angry.”

No it’s not. (I’ll expand on that in a moment. It applies three ways.)

Americanism (which I’ll take to mean the principles upon which this country was founded) is a blessing conferred by G-d. Why? I could simply say: because He chose to confer it and that would be enough. No one can earn it. Yet it may have been related to the fact that those founders, and the principles they laid out referenced Him — explicitly, humbly and reverently — in a new and unique way. That link was perhaps not quite as universal or wholehearted as some might like to hagiographically imply (no man has ever achieved that except Jesus) but the ‘under G-d’ idea was widely accepted for several centuries on these shores, more or less.

G-d has blessed America. He has used it to His larger purposes. As a side effect of that, we have enjoyed certain fruits as well as carrying the burden of certain responsibilities. I don’t claim to know how that equation nets out now, or how it has changed, but I do sense that it became unbalanced some time ago (forty years? twenty? ten? one?) and that G-d has been enormously patient with us in the meantime. We took our eyes off Him. We now bear the weight of his impending judgment on us.

Please hear me out. Do not conflate or confuse what I say with similar-sounding items such as Reverend Wright’s noxious “G-d d-mn America” epithet. Mine is not an arrogant, bitter directive. It is an observation — and a plaintive cry for repentance.

Americanism is not our “birthright”. It is our responsibility to maintain. (I strongly suspect Ferguson and I would agree on that and so I don’t want to make too much of one sentence, but it’s a vitally important one). Rolled up in that is a responsibility to maintain the blessed relationship with the One who blessed us in the first place. In ways both small and large, we have failed to do that.

Americanism is not our “birthright” when it gets twisted into a right to kill the unborn en masse and have the coffers of harlot Babylon pay for it. It is not our “birthright” above and outside of the one who gives each of us life and breath second-to-second. It is not our “birthright” just because we happened to have been born on a particular piece of land whereas God saw fit to have some other person, such as Mother Theresa, be born in Albania and live out her life in India.

Americanism is not the “only true hope of this planet’s peoples”. Oh don’t even get me started on this one. Americanism has, without question, been the vehicle for hope, and a blessed beacon to millions, perhaps billions during some exceedingly dark times and in some exceedingly dark places. Without America, the world would be a much worse place. Many on the left forget this and it is shameful.

Yet despite my love for this country and my nostalgia for Ronald Reagan and his courage in standing up to the evils of Communism, we must not begin to imagine that it is our light that shines on the hill when it is, in fact, the light of the one who built the hill that has been shining through us. We have, more and more, denied that light and tried to block it and thus it is no mystery that we seem to be growing dimmer and the world darker. As more and more antichrist sentiment seeps into our communal life, we descend into twilight.

If Americanism were “the only true hope of this planet’s peoples”, then I pity the planet’s peoples. I love what America has stood for and what its founding documents still say that it does. I love the spirit of so many — here and elsewhere — that still pine for those things and who feel confused and hurt at their having been snatched away. I love God more.

We should be hoping and praying for more than Americanism. Much more. God is bigger than America and any notion of Americanism. He made them and us — for a purpose and for a time, like all nations and peoples. That time may now be ending.

I would agree with Ferguson that Americanism may be the best this world has to offer when compared to the alternatives throughout history. But we cannot forget: He created it and us. If we turn back to Him in sackcloth and ashes, He will provide abundantly more than what our material wealth, our armies, our sense of generosity and our desire for justice and fairness have delivered to and through us so far.

Those are just attempts to replicate here the riches He has promised to bestow on those who look to His Son and acknowledge his expensive blood sacrifice for us.

So no, it is not the time for us to get angry. It is time for us to ask, on our knees, why God is angry with us and to humbly acknowledge that He has ample reason in each day in every one of us. The miracle is that, in His Mercy, He has held back so long when we have expressed less and less love for His precious gift on the cross.


Responses

  1. “Love Not The World”

    ”For the WHOLE world(not just a portion) is under the control of the evil one”…….(I John 5:19)

    “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever.” (I John 2:15-17)

    “If you were of the world, the world would love it’s own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.” (John 15:19-20)

    “Where do wars and fighting among you come from? Do they not come of your lusts that war in your members? You lust, and have not: you kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: you fight and war yet you have not, because you ask not. You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts. You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is to be at enmity with The Only True GOD? Therefore whoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of The Only True GOD.” (James 4:1-4)

    “The world cannot hate you; but the world hates Me, because I testify that the works of this world are evil.” (John 7:7)” and “The Messiah gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of The Only True God, Our Father.”(Gal 1:4)

    The Messiah testified: “If the world hates you know that it hated Me before it hated you.”(John 5:18) Truly, Truly, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die it brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto life eternal.” (John 12:24-25)

    John testified: “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you.” (I John 3:13) “ James testified, “Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD”(James 4:4)

    [Longer comment snipped. -ed.]

  2. Then what is grace?

  3. What Archangel said. People in America, particularly Christians, are much too ‘Ameri-centric.’ I heartily recommend the book “Salvation is from the Jews” for a totally different perspective on judgment of the nations. It is written by a Jew who is a practicing Catholic. You might be quite surprised at the author’s erudite perspective.

    [A strong second to that! AA turned me on to it and it is an excellent read. Well worth the time. Yes, the Jews (and Israel) remain the center of it all, no question. -ed]

    Bea, I was a Protestant for my whole life (40+ years) until I converted to the Catholic Church in 2008. I was immersed in Protestant doctrine. I probably know it as well as you do–as well as the Bible.

    However, ‘just because I was raised a certain way’ it did not ‘limit me to follow without investigation’, to quote you. I spent a long time investigating the Catholic Church with its sacraments, tradition, and (horrors!) popes. And I stand here today a most grateful Roman Catholic. As I am sure you stand today a most grateful Protestant.

    Conversion swings both ways. Let us not make this a ‘Us’ vs. ‘Them’ post, I pray.

    I think what Archangel is saying is that the spiritual picture is much, much larger than what most American Christians envision. Yes, I agree that innocents will suffer as final judgment comes on the earth. Innocents have suffered since time began. That will not end until THE END. However, American Christians, because of the unique founding of the United States, seem bent on making the USA the center of things. I believe it will have a peripheral role, and that only because of the large numbers of Christians still here.

    The ultimate center of things has always been and will always be Israel and its neighbors. Does Rome have a role to play? I believe so. But more so as the weary center of Christianity. It is the voice that the world looks to in matters of Christian faith, and has been since the founding of Christianity.

    Regarding the specious belief that some Christians adhere to — that Rome is the Whore of Babylon — I would suggest that there is much excellent scholarship out there to refute such a notion. What it takes, though, is to not limit oneself without investigation, to paraphrase Bea. In other words, read a couple books about it by Catholic scholars, not Protestants! :-)

    • AMEN!!!!

  4. Am I going to have to separate you two? ;-)

    I rarely do this, but seriously folks, please… try and stick roughly with the topic of the post and let’s not get into side battles over doctrine* that honest Christ-followers haven’t managed to resolve in 500+ (or 2000) years.

    I try and go ‘light’ on comment moderation, but we have to be conscious of the times; satan just loves this, especially when the skeptics are watching.

    *That includes battles over the doctrine of what’s appropriate to fight over, as well as side e-mails pointing out that doctrine is important and challenging whether I’m right to say that we shouldn’t have such battles!! :)

    The host has spoken. (No, not THAT host. The BLOG host. Yeesh…)

    Carry on. :)

  5. I understand you feel that way but sprinking a baby is not baptism. I’m sorry.

    • Infant baptism, [in the Catholic Church] is the FIRST step of initiation which is completed by the sacrament of Confirmation when the “child” becomes an adult in the eyes of the church. The infants head is not sprinkled… water is POURED from a pitcher and three times the head is SOAKED. It is the same process done to adults when they are baptized into the church. The only difference is that as adults, they are usually confirmed on the same day.

      Baptism removes the stain of Original Sin, which is why a baby is baptized in the first place. Without some form of baptism be it of traditional water, martyrdom (blood), or spiritual will at the point of death there is no salvation.

      I would suggest you go to the Easter Vigil Mass next Easter and you will probably have some enlightening moments.

      [comment edited. -ed.]

  6. Bea- Your interpretation of the 7 blasphemies in Revel;ation can not stand the simplest scrutiny. BAPTISM is the one event that ALL Christians accept. It is proscribed in the Gospel as such specifically and it is Triune. Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans/Episcopaleans, Evangelicals, Orthodox, all use essentially the same wording. Your analysis falls right there. The sacrament of Baptism IS NOT BLASPHEMUS. Therefore that leaves only 6 potential.

    The 7 heads are NOT the Sacraments. I most gently suggest you seek better interpretations and come to grips with that fact. You are in error and will not debate that issue any further. Your interpretation is rather embarrassing and IMO could lead a great many to further error of greater consequence.

    Agape

  7. Archangel…Im not damning anyone. I hope for the best but when there is clear warning in the bible i think its important to warn. Because i confronted the 7 sacraments of Roman Catholics(in my post Reconciling the irreconcilable) doesn’t mean I hate or damn catholics or anyone that sides with the beast but I hope they leave its lies and follow Jesus Christ. My husband was raised Catholic but he is no longer Catholic. I have had many friends who were and are Catholic but I have to say what I believe to be true. I hope you are open-minded enuf to search for the truth. Just because you may have been raised a certain way does not limit you to follow without investigation. If what the Roman teachings aren’t included in the bible how can you be so sure of its truth and I am talking about the 7 sacraments. If tradition is more important to you than the truth than ignore this. I would love to see the Pope alter the course of history for the well being of its followers and himself by denying its lies and do the right thing.

  8. [...] 1) America coming under judgment as part of a tribulation coming on the whole world, in prelude to Christ’s return. When that ramps-up in earnest, I have no doubt that (as Jesus told us) G-d will make ample use of earthquakes and other spectacular geophysical phenomena to make His point and get folks’ attention. [...]

  9. I think we need to be careful when using old testament scripture and applying it to our current situation. A great deal changed with the coming of the new covenant, including the beginning of preaching the kingdom.

    Luke 16:16  The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    “Doesn’t all scripture apply?” Yes but we need be careful not misapply it.
    God has a nation and it isn’t America, it is The Church.

    Completely agree, but if we just stick with the NT, Matt 24 and Revelation (almost all of it, but chapters Rev 4-19 especially) make very clear that there will be tribulation and chaos on a scale the world has never seen and that it will be anything but homogeneous. (E.g., mystery Babylon is singled out).

    But neither is it hyper-selective. Yes we have the opportunity for salvation through Christ — and I urge everyone to take hold of that now — but those NT scriptures, among others (not to mention Daniel, which speaks plainly of the end times and which Jesus refers to by name), make clear that many saints will suffer and die right along with those destined for the other place. (I probably just kicked off another rapture debate with that one, but so be it.)

    Look, I may well be wrong on the America stuff. Gosh man, I hope I am. I don’t like pain and suffering any more than the next guy. I wouldn’t be eager for any of it if I didn’t firmly believe that what it leads to (Christ) is far, far better than what we can imagine. We’re still called to pray. God will listen and stay His hand if enough of us do that, as I’m sure He has in the past. But it will all come to pass eventually. Otherwise Jesus is a liar when he speaks of such things in the gospels and Revelation.

    Anyone confident that America won’t come under judgment, based on some formula (e.g., that the antichrist needs to be elected by 60% or 70% of the people and not just 52% before G-d unleashes the end-times judgments) needs to ask him- or herself where they get that confidence. -ed.]

  10. So let me get this straight…

    48% of America is going be thrown to perdition because 52% chose to believe the lies of a particular candidate.

    60% of America who believe abortion to be the killing of a child will incur the wrath of God because 40% either don’t know or don’t care.

    Now that the “Me” generation has the power they have always coveted and which was going to be an eventuality simply by life… we ALL are doomed to the punishing hand of God? This might be news to some people BUT…

    WE’RE NOT THE CHOSEN PEOPLE. In pre-Christ days, we’d be the Gentiles. We were not the first nation to invoke God and we’re not a theocracy. There is NO NATION on earth that can live up to the standard some of you seek. No HUMAN can live up to it, for we are all flawed.

    One must ask about an interesting quality of the “America is doomed because of its sins” crowd, (who BTW invariably believe in a one-way ticket out-a-here “rapture” complete with the bumper-sticker “In case of Rapture; Car will be unmanned” certainty that their going in the first place)… WHY IS IT everyone else is doomed, but they are oh-so certain in their own salvation? The rotted corpse of America motif is based on a 50-50 split of the nation yet we’re doomed. What happens when that pendulum swings back in 2010? What happens when the over reach is taken for what it is and a bigger shoving match begins? Its NOT ABOUT THE U.S.A.

    The Bible is a BOOK that was first printed just shy of 1000 years ago. It is a collection of the Jewish Torah and Talmud and a collection Letters and 4 Gospels judged inspired to be included. It exists for one purpose… to prove that JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD; MESSIAH BIN JOSEPH and MESSIAH BIN DAVID. That is all.

    [Nope. Sorry. Not so. Read Daniel, Matthew 24 and Revelation. If the sole purpose of those is restricted to what you say, then I've really blown it and you've just told us you have special knowledge of the boundaries of how G-d intended to use his Word. I'm just not buyin' it. -ed.]

    The story is TIMELESS however, and the strength it provides is based on the Holiness of the Truth contained within the words. But when one says the Bible is paramount, you are putting on a pedestal a BOOK of Spirit induced words that demonstrate God’s love for humanity. But before the Bible even existed there was the LOGOS… the Word; unprinted, unwritten, with no translation needed. That is whom we worship. NOT the leather bound pages. And it is Him Who seeks to UNITE all under the roof of the Father. Not just the U.S.A., not just the Christian community, not just the Jews (The real Chosen People). It is a UNIVERSAL or in other words a small “c” catholic (which is what the word means) FAMILY of HUMANITY that is the final destination of our existence.

    So I would suggest instead of focusing on a neighbor’s or country’s speck (large though it may be), one may perhaps think about looking more individually at the speck in one’s own eye. One may be surprised that the judgement/discipline reserved for others in one’s mind may actually have one’s name on it as well.

    [Re-read the post, AA. We're in total agreement. 'Them' is more often than not us and 'us' is more often than not me. But after you do that, I urge you to read Revelation. Ironically, you're edging towards a rapture-type argument if you're saying that tribulation (the effects of judgment) won't be experienced by the truly faithful in America. :) -ed.]

    “Lord, when did we see you hungry, thirsty, lonely, afraid, cold etc.” The people who ask that sound to me genuinely surprised that they were called out and thought they were in the right crowd. So I would suggest that for those of us of different denominations who share at least in the same Triune Baptism which others feel absurdly blaspemus “In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (BTW-scripturally based)… that we show the world as the song goes, that we are Christians by our LOVE. And with that love comes MERCY and COMPASSION. To say that God is about to unleash His wrath on anything PRESUMES that one knows God’s mind. Now THAT IS the height of arrogance.

    “Forgive us our trespasses AS WE FORGIVE those who trespass against us”

    That’s a tough standard, so be careful when you call down judgement. You may get what you want.

    Rather, instead of pridefully dooming your nation and your bretheren… try praying for them and try BLESSING the nation and show the other 50% that it is worth SAVING. FIGHT THE FIGHT and lose the holier than thou pride that seeps out of the “America is doomed” mantras. Yeah… there’s a battle coming and in some ways we’re already in it. You can see it in the townhalls now. You can see it in the arrogant tact of the head National Socialist.

    This is simply a time to figure out which side your on. LAMB or GOAT And I bet its a 50-50 split. Pray for the other 50% instead of damning them.

    Agape- OUT

    • Archangel,

      I agree with you, but I think you are nibbling around all the edges.

      The true believer is the “called out one” as defined by the Greek word ecclesia. The true believers are not appointed to wrath, but to salvation (1Thess 5:9). I think there is confusion between “wrath” and “chastisement”. God will most assuredly chastise those that are his. He will present to himself a “bride” that is chaste and pure. Thus, we who are the wheat will be chastised, while the chaff will receive wrath (burned in fire unquenchable).

      You are correct about there not being a Pre-tribulation rapture. We, the believers, will go into tribulation period, and be chastised, purified, made complete, while the unbelievers will receive God’s wrath. Go back to Revelation and read where the “woes” begin. That’s where the wrath of God begins. Up to that point, we, the believers, will be suffering under the “beast” because of our testimony.

      Go back and look at the old testament saints. They suffered for their Godly stand, and were even taken into captivity (Daniel, Nehemiah, 3 Hebrews in the firey furnace), but God gave “spot” protection and/or deliverance while others were punished for their unbelief.

      Be blessed,

      AmeriKen

    • I’m not saying that at all. America will suffer judgement like everyone else. We are not immune. The point is that America’s judgement at the end won’t be just America’s… it’ll be the entire world’s.

      As for the Bible point; it is first and foremost a testament to God’s salvation history and plan for humanity from the BEGINNING to the END. The integral part of that is how from the chosen people of God came the Messiah of the World. From that point, all of scripture continues to inspire and to instruct. Instruct on how to live in Him. It remains a guidebook of Life because ALL of scripture refers to Christ as well as our own salvation. We worship the LOGOS… the eternal Word of God.

      In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD.

      The printed word is a REFLECTION of the TRUE WORD… the LOGOS. That’s the point.

    • It is important to remember the difference between corporate judgment and individual judgment. As Americans G-d can and will Judge us as a nation for our national failings. The result of such a judgment is likely to be fire and brimstone.

      As individuals we will be judged on how we have lived our lives. In surrender to the will of G-d, through the Blood of the Lamb, or in selfwill and continuous sin.

  11. even repentance is a gift…one we have not asked for enough…
    entitlements, tax-deductions or social securites are not ours to presume upon
    in rest and repentance is our strength
    would we have none of it?
    our first citizenship is in heaven
    and our first alligence is to G-d
    America bless G-d!
    we, the ones called-out, are to be salt and light
    spend it all…it will cost everything!
    we must lay down our lives for our Friend
    and we will walk through fire.
    everything will be tried by fire so
    this is our rest…this is our test
    turn and return

  12. Our abominations are overflowing. It’s only a matter of days before desolation. Given our apostate condition, many do not even know what our fate is.

    Daniel 9:
    16 O Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our fathers have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us.

    17 “Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, O Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. 18 Give ear, O God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy.

    We have not done what you have told us, we have done what has pleased us, and we have mixed with the culture of our day. As it says in your word, desolations have been decreed- we cannot be exempt from them, but you can keep us under the shadow of your wing as they happen. Lord, forgive our sinful acts and cleanse us from our unrighteousness-we want to do what is pleasing in your sight. Let your will be done according to your word and use us how you see fit.

  13. AmeriKen said: “I do think we are heading for civil war. At one time, I would have joined in on this, but not now. I don’t think this is where God is leading us.”

    OK — I’ll bite. Where is God leading us?

    [And they all waited with baited breath... ;-)
    Seriously though, the answer is likely different for each of us. -ed.]

    • I, also, don’t believe that God is leading us (His Ecclesia, the “called out ones” – not organized religion) into an armed conflict/resistance, nor do I advocate it.

      The problem is that “carnal” Christians with their errant “kingdom-now, dominionism” theology may take our nation into this conflict. We, however, are required to speak the truth in love, and to “stand”.

      Sadly, we as carnal Christians behave like the Pharisees:

      And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20-21) We want God to validate our faith by some physical manifestation, but it won’t happen – “…we walk by faith, not by sight…”

      Ephesians 6:12 – For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

      BTW: Wasn’t it VP Biden to “gird your loins”, but I think he meant it differently.

      For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; (2Cor10:3-5)

      After 40 years of struggling “in the way”, I’m now understanding the literal interpretation of the sermon on the mount with all the “blesseds”.

      “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” (Luke 21:28)

      Be blessed,

      AmeriKen

  14. Here is a quote from John Winthrop’s actual discourse where he referenced the “city on a hill”. [link embedded -ed.]

    He was speaking to the Puritans who were traveling to the new world to settle. The “money quote”:

    “For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. So that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world.”

    In a way our (America’s) current condition is like the salt that has lost its flavor and is worth nothing but to be trodden under foot.

    [Great catch, CBD. You nailed it. Amen!! -ed.]

  15. “…we wrestle not against flesh and blood…”, but our weapons are as follows:
    2Cr 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

    Brethren, we are getting ready to go into the greatest spiritual war since the creation. We must “put on the whole armor of God” (Eph 6:11), and be overcomers – “…they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. (Rev 12:11)

    We are focusing on “Americanism” which was the product of our founding fathers due to their obedience to God. Throughout all ages, however, we are commanded to: …put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof” (Rom 13:14)

    In years gone by, I consider myself to have been a “militant Christian” and worked to protect and preserve the blessings of God that was embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which brought this great country into existence.

    I suppose there is a time for “righteous indignation”, but now I am not sensing God’s call to do that. I have been closely following the events of the “Tea Parties”, and the “Town Hall” meetings. The liberty loving masses are now arising to throw of the chains the forthcoming tyranny. Unfortunately, these “Christian” Americans can recite the Articles of the Constitution, but not the “Sermon on the Mount”.

    There is a time for everything under heaven as we are taught in Ecclesiastes chapter 3. It was right at the time for our War of Independence, but it is not now the time to make physical war against those who oppress us. This present and forthcoming war is a spiritual war, and we must be properly prepared for it. Martyrdom is in our future. The thought of that rises up in our flesh to resist physically, but we are warned to make “no provision for the flesh”.

    We only need to look at the example of Stephen. He spoke the truth, but the crowd turned on him and stoned him to death. There was no bitterness on his part, but forgiveness. He told the truth in their presence, but they chose to resist the truth. There are many examples during the reformation when those saints resisted unto death being burned at the stake and such. Speaking the truth enraged the godless crowds, but many converts were made at the same time as those converts witness the glorius death of these saints.

    I do think we are heading for civil war. At one time, I would have joined in on this, but not now. I don’t think this is where God is leading us.
    I will pay my vows unto the LORD now in the presence of all his people. Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. O LORD, truly I am thy servant; I am they servant, and the son of thine handmaid; thou hast loosed by bonds.
    (Psa 116:15-16)

    We have to get it right this time, folks.

    Be blessed,

    AmeriKen

  16. Seems to me that the fall of the US is quickly approaching. Since most people have been asleep this may be the only way to wake people up to the fact that we, as a country, have erred. If you read the Old Testament these things occurred to the Hebrews when they disobeyed God and obviously we have done the same. What did we expect to happen? As a country we should get back to believing in Jesus Christ. I think the anger most people have is because they are afraid. Afraid of losing the easy life we have grown accustomed to have and not righteous anger at ourselves for disobeying God. We deserve what is happening as a whole. But we could change our ways and repent. That would be a great start.
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    It isn’t that I wish to go through this but I think this may be the only way for our country to wake up. We allowed this and brought this upon ourselves. It is obvious to me that our PResident and many of our representatives are an extension of Rome. We messed with Israel and sided with Rome. We followed the wrong path in many other ways too. It may be too late for our country but it isn’t too late for each person individually. The global beast we have aligned ourselves with is evil and it will be destroyed by God. Everything the Globalists do and say are lies. Anyone who follows that beast will suffer in the end, but in the meanwhile Christians and Jews are its target and anyone else who resists. I think prayer is a wonderful idea but be sure to pray to Jesus Christ and not the Pope or any other false God. Remember it was the Pope who promoted a one world government, a one world religion, one world finance. They (global beast) uses the “save the planet” as their platform and it’s this platform that will not save us. It is deception.

  17. So, as since I am part of that “nation”, the “failings” of that nation are by extension my failings. Therefore, the fire and brimstone judgment for my nation extends to me. Therefore, there is no salvation for anyone since ALL nations will be consigned to Hell. Got it.

    I feel so much better.

    Thanks for proving my point.


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